FSX Compatibility problems

[Gary Summons]

Heres a growing list of problem using FSX and UK2000 Scenery (and probably most other addon scenery)



1) DXT1 graphics bug, (black border around objects, made worse by MS MIP level)
2) Really bad ground flashing, some of this may be related to the ground hieght not being set correctly (flattens may not be working)
Another thought Has MS deleted all the Ground layering system???, it appears so these will cause huge problems.

3) MS default airport vehicles will not be excluded by normal exclude code
4) FS9 River and Road instruction dont work in FS10
5) FS9 Airport shirting removal does not work in FS9 (that green sub base you see at default scenery)
6) MS Default runways problem. in that it displayed at Gatwick and Glasgow, may be related to the MS papi added in these products
7) Active airgate dont work, its in a repeating loop of closing and opening

[mulletman]

out of curiosity (presuming you have the Deluxe version) how many of these issues are covered in the SDK?

[George Davison]

It's not too bad Gary. I installed Part 8 and flew from EGNT, yes the ground textures flickered but that was about it.

George

[George Davison]

Double post again 

George

[Gary Summons]

The most serious problem has now been revealed when you use older scenery from Parts1-8,( there are a few exception like Newcastle because I used a 3D modeling program to make it), but 95% of all other old work has a nasty vector fault.

It appears FSX no longer supports the old method of deciding which side of polygon to display (front or back) and is purely relying on the points sequecne being clockwise or anticlockwise (which is how Gmax and others do it) . This could mean the end of Parts1-8 as there's no way to convert old code into new code. I will have a think about it futhur but at the moment at the very least it will take 4-7months of work and you have ask the question is it worth it, when I could spend that time making new and better airfields.

I rather depressing day for all

[Norman Dean]

Hi Gary,

That ties in with my experience, although I can't get EGNT either. The Gatwick and Glasgow buildings are fine.

I am voting for a new series of airfields for England and Wales, rather than waste time on a temporary patch. However to give some thing for everyone could you pick selected airfields across the country rather than regions.

(perhaps you could start a poll?)

Norman

[Ryan Jackson]

I just bought Leeds/Bradford (my local airport) as a single a couple of weeks ago. So an update would be ideal. BUT! I must advise you to consider future scenery rather than old. Many people loved it (and continue to love it) but this means you'll have more time to produce the Xtreme series of airports and make them even more fantastic!
I also agree with above, in that it would be a good idea to do a poll. 

[mulletman]

Yep. a poll is a good idea. (can you make them open too, ie, to non forum members?)

[Joe Cook]

Yeh that wouldn't be a problem Fred

[mulletman]

Yeh that wouldn't be a problem Fred

Well i was just thinking. Becuse a lot of owners of Just Flight's British Airports are going to want to have a say. Although yes, they are packages differently, and i know the situation between UK2000 and JF, but they are almost the same product when it comes down to it.

Provided the poll topic is woorded properly, it should be fair.  (oherwise you will just get a flood of "yes, i want an update".

Of course we have to wait and see if Gary is actually willing to update before going any furthur. (is there any possibility of enlisiting help....)

[George Davison]

After due consideration Gary, I would agree that it would be best to cut your losses and forget the existing part sceneries. I'm sure that many will feel let down, but it is not of your making, FSX is so different from FS9 I feel it has been forced upon you.

George

BTW, where is the poll?

[Joe Cook]

BTW, where is the poll?

There isnt one yet...its being considered

[Gareth Smart]

Yea I tend to agree.

I Had an idea a few years back after my purchase of Bristol, that if ever the situation arises (which, it pains me to say, is now) then why not just do the Major airports like Heathrow, Stanstead etc which Gary is doing now?

I know it might not make you as much money as in the past Gary But I think unfortunately it has to be done.

I agree on the poll that would be a good idea to have one started.

I have just had another thought as well:

If Gary is willing to do so and everyone agrees on this, why not keep parts 1-8 and have them updated for FS2004?

Modern Hard Drives now come with an imense ammount of capacity on them and if you buy a 150GB hard drive then that is more than enough capacity for FS9 and FSX together, so people who want regional airports to fly from can still have this luxury, and just because FSX has now been released doesn't mean we have to say goodbye to FS9. It will Still work with countless addons and as it is looking, will have a far better compatability with FS9 and addons than FSX will probably ever will.

I think personally Microsoft has not lived up with its promise of being able to be 'the best FS yet for developers'

I strongly feel that it has let Developers, especially the smaller ines such as Gary, down. A lot of people I feel will loose out because of FSX, So I say stick with FS9 and then Gary's work can continue on for a lot longer yet.

Sorry to ramble on but I had to let my feelings about FSX be known

Thats my 2 cents worth.

Let me know what you think about what I have said in the above,

Regards

Gareth

[mulletman]

I think personally Microsoft has not lived up with its promise of being able to be 'the best FS yet for developers'

Im not so sure. For new developers, and new products, FSX is probably exactly that, The best FS yet. However what they have sacreficed in making it better has resulted in non compatability.

However, that said, scenery design was hitting a real highpoint. the extremity of the changes made i do not agree with. Framerates were on the rise, detail was incredible and MS honsestly did not need to put us back to square 1. even the default scenery has gone down in terms of looks.

I await my copy tomorrow.

[Gareth Smart]

George have you installed VFR scenery as well?

If so, who's?