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« on: March 22, 2012, 10:33:22 AM » |
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Hi There.
I just installed the update to Stansted and have found I have a strange effect. If I switch to an outside view and look at the aircraft from an elevation above the normal eyeline I get the effect you can see in the screenshot. The area to the bottom has a flickering edge and if I pan the view the edge remains aligned horizontally to the monitor edges, (I hope that makes sense). Any ideas?
Mike
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Mike Rudkin
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 03:07:46 PM » |
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Ha Ha! I've sorted this out. For anyone else who may suffer from this it's related to the EGSS exclude all file. When deleted the problem goes away BUT. If you change the AFCAD option it's re-installed thus re-instating the problem! Bizarre I know but there it is.
Mike
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Andrew Entwistle
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 11:40:23 PM » |
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I just had this issue, but I didn't actually have that file active...
The egss_exc_all.bgl appears when I remove the jetways for AES users (which I am not...) Also, when doing this, the EGSS_Animate2.bgl disappears...
I would like to get to the bottom of this, but it is late now... anyone else affected by this?
Andrew
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« Last Edit: March 22, 2012, 11:51:00 PM by Andrew Entwistle »
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Norman Dean
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2012, 02:06:16 PM » |
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Andrew, do you mean that you are selecting the option to remove jetways for AES users even though you do not use AES? If so then that is the probable cause of your problem.
Norman
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Andrew Entwistle
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2012, 11:59:59 PM » |
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No Norman...
I did not select that option for FSX, though I simply tried it out to see what files were changed or removed by doing so. I installed the Version 3.3 over the previous version I had installed. I get the impression that the blocking out of the texture that we see here only occurs on arrival. If I start up FSX and load up a free flight starting at Stansted, all seems well...
I completely removed the "old" version now, and reinstalled V3.3 from scratch. I will try a renewed flight into Stansted tomorrow and see if there is any difference. I certainly noticed no issue when going round the block on 22 and back to 22 in the PMDG NGX...
By the way, one for Gary perhaps:
I do not have VFR Airfields Volume 2 installed, but the Stansted installer seems to think I have and warns me that I must disable Stansted in that product... ?
Andrew
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Mike Rudkin
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 01:24:59 AM » |
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Hi Andrew.
Interestingly I do have AES and therefore did select 'remove jetways'. I got egss_exc_all.bgl installed but not EGSS_Animate2.bgl. I did start with a default aircraft from freeflight and then selected an 'add-on' aircraft and the fault was there from the original selection. I do have VFR airfields volume 2 but had Stansted deselected from the previous installation of EGSS Extreme. Again, mysteriously, after installing V3.3 I found that the VFR 2 version had selected itself and had to be de-selected!
I thought I'd just post this as it appears to indicate, to some degree that you're not the only person who has suffered unusual file installations from V3.3. Luckily, for me I've now got it sorted so best of luck to you.
Mike
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Gary Summons
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 08:50:54 AM » |
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I'll check out that breaking up ground. Sometimes it only effects some users, I had a similar case with Heathroiw. It will be easy to solev by raising it up 1-2CM in hight
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Norman Dean
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 09:07:08 AM » |
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Hi Andrew.
Interestingly I do have AES and therefore did select 'remove jetways'. I got egss_exc_all.bgl installed but not EGSS_Animate2.bgl. I did start with a default aircraft from freeflight and then selected an 'add-on' aircraft and the fault was there from the original selection. I do have VFR airfields volume 2 but had Stansted deselected from the previous installation of EGSS Extreme. Again, mysteriously, after installing V3.3 I found that the VFR 2 version had selected itself and had to be de-selected!
I thought I'd just post this as it appears to indicate, to some degree that you're not the only person who has suffered unusual file installations from V3.3. Luckily, for me I've now got it sorted so best of luck to you.
Mike
I have just tried re-installing version 3.3 and it ran as expected. I did use the options screen for settings, so checked the necessary boxes and all looks as it should. EGSS in VFR Airfields has not been re-activated. However, I do not have AES, so that may be a factor. Norman |
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Gary Summons
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 05:49:59 PM » |
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I've remade the FSX version 2CM higher, so if have this ground break up problem, download again and install
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Andrew Entwistle
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 08:52:34 AM » |
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Thanks for the update there... I installed the new version, over the top of the old first... I took these on arrival in Stansted last night... You can see the "bleed through" in the foreground, as well as behind the aircraft around the parking bay. The anomaly appears markedly around the parking bays... This set shows the angle dependency of the anomaly quite well, and the fact that the parking bays seem to be clear of the issue (afcad?)... I also saw this begin on final approach, as I was overhead the runway approach lighting for 22, the top texture seemed to be "pushed away" as I approached the ground. I had patchy zones of bleed all along the runway too... I can't say I remember ever having seen this with the previous version, into which I also flew the NGX... what changed in the new version? In the sim, these bleed zones flicker like crazy and take the realism out of it a bit for me... The scenery.cfg is in order, the UK2000 common library is below all the other UK2000 entries... when I install the new version of Stansted, the installer always warns me that VFR Airfields 2 appears to be installed and that I should decativate its Stansted, which is strange, as I definitely do not have VFR Airfields yet (it is on my list, as I do enjoy the odd GA flight or 5...). Odd... what files is the installer checking for? Let me know if you want any more information. EGSS is my top airport for departures and arrivals, I enjoy going into and out of Stansted, at least in the virtual world, not a fan of Stansted in real life mind...  Andrew |
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Karoly Nagy
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 02:55:55 PM » |
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It's interesting, because a few days ago it was fine (I've made lots of screenshots from my B748F repaint). Yesterday I wanted to make shots from some changes, and then the same error appeared. I (un)installed several things yesterday (no scenery, only planes) maybe that hurt a bit (but why?). Anyway, I'll reinstall it today... later... (maybe the whole FSX soon  ) And the VFR warning also appeared at me too despite of I don't have it. Edit: hmm, I've just ran the Options Setup, and now everything works fine again. Edit2: after FS restart, problem appears again  |
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Norman Dean
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 04:06:22 PM » |
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OK, suddenly I can see it too. At first all seemed fine for me, but after another look and trying different angles and heights I can now see the texture change for the surface very clearly.
Norman
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Andrew Entwistle
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 08:42:40 PM » |
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I had it again coming into EGSS tonight... must admit, I was expecting it to happen, as I hadn't changed anything other than reinstalling EGSSX from scratch... But I went into the scenery database after landing, forced a reload, and suddenly the anomaly was gone. It is as if something mesh related is not loading properly when the scenery is loaded on approaching. EGSSX works without a hitch if you start up there. I only have this when arriving... I would love to get to the bottom of this, Gary's airports are one of THE highlights of my FSX world. I picked up EGNX a couple of days back. Planning to jet into and out of there in the next few days...  Andrew |
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Gary Summons
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 08:43:17 PM » |
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I have raised it up another 2CM, please try this file http://www.uk2000scenery.net/files/EGSS_S7_1.zipCopy the BGL into the scenery folder. I think I know what happened, in my attempt to solve the hight altitude flashing problem, I swaped from FSX to FS9 coded ground polygons, how ever its ref point is fixed not relative, and was fixed at 106.08M same as default Stansted, but I see our AFD file is 106.1, so its fighting the AFD ground hight, last nights change was to 106.1M, but I guess its not enough, I now have this ground polygon at 106.12 that should prevent it. |
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Andrew Entwistle
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 08:45:21 PM » |
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Cheers... will place it in...
Andrew
Just set off from EGNX... wow, that is one beautiful job there, and a great performer in the NGX for me! Going to be visiting that airport a lot in the near future...
And to report that you have nailed it sir...
Stansted is back in to its good old self, at least as far as I can tell from my little trip over from East Midlands, which I would guess is far enough away. I will check with a longer leg tomorrow, but it is certainly looking like you have sorted this one Gary, thanks...
A
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